It's only this generation that Xbox has started putting their games on Steam. Weve seen that Gamepass players typically dont buy games, so why would Sony ever want Gamepass on their system? I think you make the "GP adherent = zealot" arguement for us. Subs seems nice but over saturated. But what most dont take into that equation is that Microsoft largely owns the PC space as well w/ their O/S. No added bonuses for PS owners? That profit comes from the revenue the likes of CoD brings in, but also the revenue that Game Pass produces, and the mobile market. @CapGod He has both consoles how is he TRYING to be a neutral gamer? My issue is paying 1 per month and having access to games which cost hundreds of millions to create. The numbers released the other day showed that Game Pass accounted for only 18% of total Xbox revenue. I think a lot of people like to bleat on about how great gamepass is, but I wonder how many games they actually play in full on it. Is it true MS is just doing this to avoid monopoly accusations. They can easily make a subscription service to access their games. Good for you. Having Game Pass on PlayStation would mean Xbox will have to leave the console business and just become the new SEGA with streaming. They need to get rid of him like MS did with Don Mattrick. MS is just sh*t stirring as usual. Given MS subsidised a loss making Xbox division for years( maybe decades, its hard to get data now for some reason), its really not. Most Xbox exclusives and many non exclusives have it and is making Xbox money, even when the service runs on PlayStation. @RustyBullet Finally a voice of reason! At the end of the day, Sony made the decision not to launch its first party titles into plus day and date (which i think is the correct decision fwiw - as in the long term i see the game pass model as being damaging for gaming, even if its a great deal for gamers right now), and its not for Microsoft to question their decision. MS will go as far as the regulators will let them in buying all of the big franchises they can to have an effective monopoly on gaming subscription services. And if you put gp on Playstation you have 3 times that at once. A good place to begin is to look back at that 24-48 hour period to see what occurred.. Id take gamepass on PS. @Balosi I'm asking myself the same question, time to unsubscribe from the feed I suppose. It sounds like the majority of people here don't like paying 70 for games either as there's a lot of comments taking issue with the fact that cod will likely be on gamepass. @Jaz007 Of course the fanboys want Sony to make these kind of purchases. Also, Microsoft should really stop having a pop at Sony's business practices with PS Plus. Gamers do have a choice. @Sqush-Pare By market share. In the end there is a simple solution that Xbox and PlayStation can work with. Everyone wants to pay 70 for new releases on their playstation and would always want ownership for their games*, *Unless of course they buy their games digitally, in which case they're actually just leasing a non transferable license, Sony isn't really concerned, they're just playing the game correctly. This reminds me when the ColecoVision had the add-on "expansion module" that let you play Atari 2600 games on it. Surely they cant seriously expect people to go along with that. Thank you! I still play on my PS5 more but I'll defo be playing A Plague Tale: Requiem next week on the green machine. Thank you. I am a Playstation fan because they make great single player games. And since it will become a game pass game it will probably be getting worse like most likely with every Microsoft game. You think Sony was the only player making games at $70? They are using the success of Microsoft to just buy up the gaming industry. So Sony should sell their consoles at a loss for other services? If it's the former it makes no sense at all because then PlayStation would receive everything Microsoft produces as well as Sony's own 1st party games so why would anyone ever get an Xbox at that point? Granted, a successful game might bring a lot of attention, but games (even small ones) still found success prior to Game Pass, and could just as easily do so now. @AdamNovice do you really wanna talk about exclusives? The arrogance of Microsoft pretending they only want to buy huge publishing houses to increase choice.. Its astonishing. Microsoft is the opposite. It's being done, not so much for the exposure for the game (it has that already), but because of the exposure that Game Pass will get. @Keyblade-Dan Sony are the ones who told people to work harder to afford a PS3. What guarantees did they give to MS to ensure complete parity indefinitely - NONE! Weird not to think that way. Last gen sony was the gem of the generation. @Mikey856 that is your opinion. Instead of choosing which has the 'best' games, maybe you'd choose on which you can download and play locally - but you'd not have to miss out on CoD or Destiny, God of War or Gears of War, Starfield or Horizon etc - the 'best' experience may not be on your prefered brand plastic box of electronics under the TV, but at least you can still play the SAME games and not have to buy BOTH brands because half the games are on one system and the other half are on the other with a 'few' games still on both - like the Nintendo/Sega days of the 80's @Old-Red I see what youre saying. I don't see either company coming across well in this whole affair a lot of dirty laundry being aired at the moment. It must be paying them well enough, and well as making Xbox money, otherwise no one would be interested in entering their games on to the service @Keyblade-Dan Pathetic comment. There is no lack of knowledge, just maybe a lack of clarity @Fiendish-Beaver Fair enough, that makes much more sense! Heres todays Mini Crossword, and a clue: River thats the setting for Van Goghs Fishing in Spring (five letters). Different content, but same situation. So yes they do give a choice and they should put a watered down version of Gamepass on PS which would just have MS 1st party games. There are a bunch of hypocrites that like to make out its only Xbox that are buying up studios/publishers, whilst Sony, TenCent and Embracer are out there doing the exact same thing, also with Sony that love to pay to keep games away from competition. Your customizable and curated collection of the best in trusted news plus coverage of sports, entertainment, money, weather, travel, health and lifestyle, combined with Outlook/Hotmail, Facebook, Twitter, Bing, Skype and more. They like people to think that its PlayStation vs Xbox. The reason for the malaise is GP. One without a game. @Neither_scene Excuses, excuses. . Kind of like watching two rich dudes argue about who has the better yacht. @__jamiie Stop trying to equate the two companies, Microsoft trying to play the underdog in all of this is laughable. What has is been now, three record revenue years in a row for xbox? Cod will remain on a Sony machine for the foreseeable future. 374. we need to know if nintendo will allow ps plus or gamepass on their devices ? You think third party would have loved to stay at $60? I could care less about massive companies bickering.Or which is currently the more consumer friendly deal at the moment.HOWEVER I will say monopolies are not a good thing and MS hoovering publishers like this sets a trend in motion which I am not a fan of at all. I wasn't trying the suggest that Microsoft haven't been behind the scenes all along, ploughing in money where needed, and plugging any financial shortfalls. @Sqush-Pare Xbox is the underdog to PlayStation. Hey you want to pay 60 for this game or sign up on our competitor's service and get it for basically free? O Centro Universitrio Brasileiro (UNIBRA) desde o seu incio surgiu com uma proposta de inovao, no s na estrutura, mas em toda a experincia universitria dos estudantes. It surmises that adding hit properties like Call of Duty to Game Pass wouldn't tip the scales in its favour. It's all just a cover up to try hide their attempts at market manipulation and huge gains. Crossword Puzzles & Word Origins the relative popularity of UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, and how the winter season changes peoples feelings about romance and relationships. There's plenty of other sites that favour other systems. I'm in Puerto Rico, work in a place where constant supply is needed, and the prices for stuff are unbearable. It seems like Microsoft is getting a little perturbed at how long this deal has taken to go through. NOW whos the underdog?? And then in few years they'll say something like oh well we did offer GamePass on PS. How to Curb Your Expectations You dont need to set your expectations super high or way down low to have a healthy relationship. We should all just want strong competition, and we cant have that if MS buy the most popular gaming franchises and lock it behind their own subscription (again, selling full price on a console is a different and soon to be niche market). I think you are getting caught up in console wars a bit there. Everyone is bringing their IP home for their own streaming service. @KaijuKaiser Sony couldn't afford this. He's tbe main reason I won't support Playstation anymore. C1 Advanced. It would make zero sense for Sony to allow it with 3rd party games included in the service especially since they got their own subscription service for those. Now I accept that they will likely have had a bucket load of money thrown at them in advance, but I highly doubt that it even touches the sides as to what they will eventually make. What is Sony going to do. This is all in service of trying to convince regulators that Microsoft's $70 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard is a good thing for the industry. I've said it so many times having gamepass on playstation or Nintendo would literally only benefit Microsoft financially if Sony offers to put ps plus on the Xbox do you think Microsoft would want that lol. Have Microsoft even made an offer regarding gamepass on playstation? 'Sony is denying gamers a choice' but keeping established franchises off of PlayStation by buying up publishers somehow ISN'T denying gamers a choice? I love how they're choosing words in this one. Synonyms for control include management, supervision, administration, charge, direction, guidance, superintendence, government, regulation and running. I have no idea why would you call that being a fanboy. Its not like this was a hostile takeover of AB, they wanted to be aquired and Xbox was the one that made an offer they wanted. Like there is no comparison. @The_Moose some indie developers have said that the money they receive for going to gamepass pretty much covers the cost of making the game so they are essentially breaking even before selling a single game. That's the point. What a stupid article! For me, with a mortgage and other bills. Gamepass on PlayStation would be nice, I could have everything on a single console, I actually don't even get why Xbox would want this they would literally stop selling consoles altogether. I'd like that. I've got over a hundred games from ps plus and I've probably only played about ten of them to the end over the past 10 years. I just don't give a crap for the mediocrity they release as games. so they can exclude anyone who doesn't own a PlayStation from playing their games. Nonsense. It seems to me that a lot of people are troubled by a game being offered on the Xbox Game Pass, when it actually makes no difference to them whatsoever, as not only do they not game on an Xbox, but they will continue to buy the game on the PlayStation. A federal judge blocks Penguin Random House's bid to acquire Simon & Schuster, saying the DOJ demonstrated that the merger might substantially harm competition The government's case blocked the merger of two of the United States' largest publishers and reflected a more aggressive approach to curbing consolidation. Microsoft trying to paint themselves as the underdog is a laughable farce. Which is it? Sony know Microsoft are about to buy the most popular shooter on the planet and put them on gamepass, if this is coupled with a megaton such as online play now free for everyone on xbox' then Sony would loose billions, no wonder Jim Ryan is moaning to anybody who will listen. Our critics review new novels, stories and translations from around the world As for AAA games it all depends, if the Devs are under MS umbrella then they pretty much get subsidised on losses which in turn minimises risk, leading to stagnation of ideas, why bother working hard or innovating if you're going to get paid regardless? In reality how many games can you play at one time? @StylesT "The old its 'bad for the industry' arguement lol. basically just a go to line of ps fanboys who dont want to be classed as fanboys because they think it makes them sound impartial". You and your gamepass can F-off Microsoft. Am I missing something?!?!? I mean this was always going to Microsoft's end game with the Acti-Bliz purchase; get game pass on everything and anything via COD demand. Ew. @neitan Yes Game pass was created to grow quickly before the competition jumped in meaning Amazon,Apple and Google why Sony think they are a part of that group and insert themselves into that role is beyond me. Playstation Studios have most of the best developers in the world that could easily make a great shooter. Seems like an easy response. Even if they are staggered releases Microsoft would stand to lose even more Xbox customers from this, which would be disastrous to their business. @CapGod Tell us all where Xbox touched you? You have nothing to fear from people jumping ship to Xbox because, according to everyone here, gamepass is crap and represents terrible value. It will be exclusive to the Game Pass rather than on the Sony equivalent, but as gamers currently buy the game on the PlayStation, and will be able to do so in the future, how is it different? Microsoft is trying to muscle its way into competition. Why would SONY want to give Microsoft more market share by using their PLAYSTATION player base? So in all actuality its more like PlayStation vs [Xbox + PC]. I'm not justifying my decision lmao. This is exactly the same as how Microsoft are making Bethesda games Xbox exclusives? @Sqush-Pare So there won't be any advantage for Sony? Microsoft starting to finally show there true greedy colors. Gamepass appears to be working out great for gamers, devs, and MS. @Fiendish-Beaver I'm not denying that GP hasn't brought a lot of people to Xbox, with its pricing I'd be surprised if it didn't. I'm not saying every Xbox fan uses GP and they will still buy games physically or digitally but if it goes straight onto GP and the money it gets from MS doesn't touch the sides (unlikely I think or they wouldn't do it) then they'll have a harder time recouping their costs. Except it's a bunch of corporate big wigs releasing statements and not colorful, fun, trash talking in commercials. Hate the pretending. of the evidence - Evidence that is of greater weight or more convincing than the evidence that is offered in opposition to it. This goes for users and journalists. But I finally got to play Sunset Overdrive! Not PlayStation. Console War 2 just in time for peak Cold War 2. Sony would also have to provide a Dev Kit to MS owned studios - and I can't see them giving MS a heads up on what their future hardware plans are in advance to ensure the games are ported to their hardware. In the majority of cases (excluding Apple of course), it's Microsoft Windows. They do not know how to work otherwise, if not spraying the competition or taking it to themselves using brute force ie infinite money. Microsoft is crushing it in games.". California is a state in the Western United States, located along the Pacific Coast.With nearly 39.2 million residents across a total area of approximately 163,696 square miles (423,970 km 2), it is the most populous U.S. state and the third-largest by area. Sony doesn't want MS to take their sales they need because they don't have all the f* money in the world like the biggest software company in the world does, very "shoking" . It's not an Xbox only service apart from when it has Xbox exclusive games added. Ceres is as important as Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus or any of the other planets. Just make your own shooter, you have a big franchises like Killzone and Resistance, or make a new one. If Xbox is so generous and good to players all around, how about they just release titles on playstation without needing gamepass there? Enter the email address you signed up with and we'll email you a reset link. Otherwise no, it cant be done. @Thenewguy no they wouldn't at all they'd want sonys first party games on the system but not any 3rd party games that they could get sales from or have on their own subscription service, @BAMozzy so if Sony bought a publisher like square enix & said to Microsoft put ps plus on your system & we'll let you have the square games via streaming you wouldnt be complaining about it over on pure Xbox lol. American Tomahawk Andersson & Copra Arno Bernard Knives Artisan Cutlery Axial Ayama Bamba Forge Bark River Knives Todd Begg Knives Benchmade Knives Bastinelli Knives Southern Grind: Jackal Pup - Black Blade - Black G-10 - Black Kydex Sheath Specifications Overall Length: 5.75" Blade Length: 2.8" Blade Steel: 8670M Blade Hardness: 58-59HRC. Every week on here people are begging Sony to buy Capcom, Konami, Square etc. @Juanalf Yeah, if I think all subscription services will go up by insane amounts and that it will hurt the media, then no, I won't subscribe. I personally prefer PlayStation when they are on their toes and have to try their hardest to win us over. Unless you're being sarcastic, what games are MS "crushing"? Thats good.i dont want it to be like that.just like sony putting theyre games on pc.but it is what it is.the ps5 is a amazing console.and it doesn't Need game pass.word up son. At least when Sony & Nintendo acquire studios, at least they acquire studios they already had a close working relationship with AND/OR primarily made games only for Sony & Nintendo, OR in the case of Haven Studios & Savage Games, haven't made any games at all, thus acquiring them isn't taking away games from other platforms. Just like some movies from streaming platforms first release in cinema's. All the latest news, reviews, pictures and video on culture, the arts and entertainment. I 'suppose' it would have to be streaming only, and if they are prepared to offer Sony the same revenue cut as anything else on the Sony store, then maybe theres something there if Microsoft really mean it. @Somebody Starfield isn't out yet so the jury is very much out on its success and I don't know what Redfall is. Hello, and welcome to Protocol Entertainment, your guide to the business of the gaming and media industries. Then you'll here Xbox gamers say oh you allowed to buy Bungie but we're not allowed to buy Acti/Blizz completly ignoring the facts that Bungie is 1 game that's remaning 3rd party for everyone and then Xbox potentially making hundreds of 3rd party games never seeing the light of day on a PS console ever again. I could buy an xbox today. I really dislike gamepass and what it means for the future of gaming - streaming, game ownership, economic sustainability etc. They don't have in-house developers. All while churning customers and seeing the money going away and talent leaving. Yeah, but their tweets are just. When Xbox publishes post-Ghostwire Tokyo/Death Loop Bugthesda games on PS then XBox can say that, @CapGod using the word immaturityironic. Sony is just 1000% right. @Fiendish-Beaver They knew PS would say no. This will go through, but its not good for the industry, its the same tactics Microsoft have used time after time to squash smaller buisness out of exsistance just through the power of having all the money treesI game everywhere so no fomo here, but I love the games industry and I genuinely see Microsoft as a huge threat to its profitability and creativity in the future. You're either the underdog or a mega corporation you can't be both. The biggest platform on PC is Steam, followed by Epic. @__jamiie Sony has never bought a developer that is valued at the same price of their ENTIRE company. Paying $10 a month to dabble on two or three games a month? Iranian security forces are attacking Kurdish opposition groups in northern Iraq. Saying all this talk now to make them look like the good guys for the every gamer and then when it eventually gets the green light next year there will be hundreds of games never coming to PS in the near future just like they're doing with Bethesda. are as praised as sony? @Juanalf You did not understand or understand what was convenient to you. Stop assuming. But a version that was just the Xbox first party games? Xbox stop making consoles and start making games for PC and PlayStation (and maybe Nintendo). And no hope so far with Sony who responds to MS acquisitions by purchasing two live service studios. Especially with Bethesda games most likely being Xbox only. C1 Advanced The Gold series is a well-established exam preparation course for the Cambridge English Qualifications. Synonyms for work include occupation, employment, job, livelihood, profession, trade, career, line of business, role and vocation. 374. Astrologer Martin Schulman cautions that this conviction may be afflicted to the point that the person with North Node in the 4th House firmly believes that without his achieving some great destiny, life is utterly worthless.. @mrbone couldnt agree more pal. If you want to mention Xbox, why don't you write about launching the next gen with 0 games, and releasing 2 exclusives over the next 2 years? The game will still be available to buy on the PlayStation, PC and on the Xbox. Sony wants to keep dominating, not just barely "win". I just don't get the issue. Of course they want to, because 25 million users is nothing to write home about. In this case, Sony would be hammered with royalty fees they would have to pay out to Microsoft. Most indie Devs probably want to be on GP for exposure at first, if you haven't spent much on your game (relatively speaking) but are unlikely to make much profit due to a crowded market then a lump sum from MS up front makes sense. This is hilarious. You have companies vying to get their games on to the Game Pass. Some people need to read back what they type and see their comments for what they are. @__jamiie But most don't want Sony making that kind of acquisition either. Ns usamos cookies e outras tecnologias semelhantes para melhorar a sua experincia, personalizar publicidade e recomendar contedo. This site is fast becoming a place for haters. They aren't Nintendo. Lets not forget that Sony are asking for something they are NOT willing to give - complete parity in a Franchise. Meantime Ill take the free hand outs on GP like everyone else. Yisus. They bought theirs. so GP on Playstation means no xbox. No company, no matter how big, will subsidise a loss-making branch of its company to the tune of billions. Makes no sense adding Game Pass to PlayStation when they won't allow PSN or Plus onto Xbox. Investors just knowing this is crushing Netflix, and now they have to spend Disney type money to get even better content. I don't give a damn about recycled cod since bo2. Bad for the industry as a whole and seems to turn many of its users into zealots who can't see a downside long term for paying 1 to play a AAA game. @__jamiie "Sony have no internal studios other than those they've bought. But if we are allowed to put Gamepass on Playstation, Playstation owners can also continue with CoD on Playstation. Azure and enterprise provides an endless money stream to their gaming. NEW EDITION It combines carefully graded exam preparation with thorough language and skills development. 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