A recall is a recall lets file another suite. Original owner had same problem since 2014. Same thing is basically happening with my 2012. Same issue with 2004 Honda Odyssey, along with several other defects! My Hondas check engine light and VSA light were on. I always keep a spare coil in my trunk.. Ive already spent well over the cost of the car & become in debt due to continuing problems!! Also am i going to get a rental to get me back and forth to work? How did yall get the dealership to pay for even 75% because it looks like they are going to be no help, and I am not going to pay $4500 for something I shouldnt have to. I just had work done 1 month ago & was told the car is fine now.. & without warning 4 different engine & OIL lights came on & car started putting.. So, I pulled over,shut the car off and turned it back on again. I see this happening to other people and i wonder if anyone can tell me how to get a class action suit started? Honda covered all costs for repairs and also covered the cost of a rental car for that time period. The 2009-2013 Honda Pilot is the subject of two TSBs for the piston rings which may fail at roughly 72,000 miles or compromise spark plugs. My 2013 Odyssey suddenly dropped gas mileage in April of 2015 from 28 to 18mpg. THIS IS THE 3RD TIME IM HAVING THIS ISSUE. I am debating if I should take it to the dealer or my mechanic. Open Settlements I am done with Honda. Replaced the plugs with OEM and still getting a misfire when I am above 70 mph on highway. belt typically get replaced during a ring. Or unwanted rapid acceleration issues / problems in Honda vehicles!! 1961-62 L6 4.3 TRK GM Cromflex Piston Rings Set For G.M virgendelpasico.net, C $51.44 TRK Free shipping for many products 3 at the best online prices at L6 4 M 1961-62 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for GM Cromflex Piston Rings Set For G 261 . The dealer updated the PCM software and replaced spark plugs. I have a 2013 Odyssey. Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information. Ingenuity is key here. The TSB is the result of A-A-Classction lawsuit. does not burn oil nor any codes. The car is a 2011 and has around 70,000 miles. replaced due to a recall. I have not fully repaired yet. Engine repaired as required under settlement. I have been a loyal Honda owner but will never buy another as they have not backed up their product or admitted there is a problem. I'm worried it's due to damaged rings? I took it to get the codes read and said It was a cylinder misfire. Having to closely monitor oil levels and add 2-3 quarts between oil changes. By submitting your comment and contact information, you agree to receive marketing emails from Top Class Actions regarding this and/or similar lawsuits or settlements, and/or to be contacted by an attorney or law firm to discuss the details of your potential case at no charge to you if you qualify. My 2012 Honda Accord is having these same issues. Now have 104k miles and have spent the last 3 months troubleshooting a misfire code with our mechanic. I just had my 2008 EX-L 4 cylinder with less then 81K rebuilt for this exact issue. Eugene Tompkins. What is the correct repair for this problem? Privacy Policy | My husband checked and spark plugs will be $16-20 each. Lo and behold 30 minutes later at the dealer it was only down .5 quart and my engine was deemed to be okay and passed the engine consumption test. Just got the coil fixed, $85 tow, $129 diagnostic, and $150 to swap out the spark plug. Thanks! If things have reached that point I dont understand why they just didnt source a new engine and be done with it. At first we got error code P0301, cylinder one misfire, car running rough engine hesitating. Was told by dealer too late to repair under warranty even though I bought less than 2 years ago. You should already be using Mobil1 0W-20 'Hi-Mileage' oil - if not, drive it a week or so, then change. Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags, Forum Icons:
I know its been a few months since you posted this but thought I would answer in the event that this could help you or others. yosemite: better an engine that starts up and idles for 5 minutes out of very hour. The car runs perfect still. (Federal Judgement for a class action law suit for this and other Honda vehicles was made on 03/21/2014). I was not original owner. I would like to know if the dealer would do any preventive maintenance on my car to avoid this problem?Or do I have to wait for codes to come up,I will ask on my next service I will check my oil more often to see if I am burning oil?This really stinks to wait for these codes to eventually appear ,I hope I am still under that extended warranty when the appear! Have not had any problems with the 4 speed, does not burn any oil! Especially with oil consumption! And, the oil after a couple 100 miles is black and smells burnt. I have been having these issues for last few months. I can get my oil changed and within 2 weeks my car is 2 quarts low on oil easily. I bought cash a 2012 Honda Pilot EXL 6 cylinder on December 13, 2019. DO NOT let them check it without you there. Has anybody had any luck with this lawsuit? I noticed the car seemed to have lost acceleration power and I scheduled to have normal maintenance work performed timing belt and timing belt tensioner replaced. Pilot, Odyssey well, it appears that Honda put oil filled bushings in the front end suspension that isolated engine vibration from the front suspension. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. My husband called (per the dealership) and asked for coverage and she told him that we dont have enough length of ownership for her to extend the goodwill coverage request for us. And if the issue with the engine is a misfire then I would not have to pay nothing. The exhaust valve and piston were fixed. I called them the next day and they said parts (rings) are on back order and I wont get my car back for about a week. Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov Unfortunately, After all the money spent through Honda we are still getting the runaround. When a class action suits settled like this, someone must notify all customers. http://settlement-claims.com/enginemisfire/, Rust Consulting Everything I read says that misfires cause the temperature to rise in the converters and eventually possibility is that it burns them up. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls:
I know this Sux.. but thats all I know to do at this point.. Had the same problem with my 2011 Honda Accord. Gas mileage has decreased significantly in the past several months. I should have never had to encourage the cost of anything. The first time, the dealership fixed it, but did not notify me that if was going to possibly happen again. That was done. I complaint to my Honda dealer but they keep telling me its normal for the car to burn oilI was a Honda tech for 10 years and have owned multiple Hondas but never had this problem. I have a 2012 Honda Crosstour and is experiencing flashing engine light, hesitate to drive, some shaking if I drive more than 40 miles. Instead I am going to drive the wheels off of this damn thing. This problem is not limited to the V6. But I think we should start another class action lawsuit against Honda, because Ill be damned if Im going to pay $4000 for a ring job and another $300 for a computer upgrade. 347-427-1700 (H). When someone brings in a cylinder head there are usually 30 or 40 other cylinder heads in line ahead of it; not to mention engine blocks for boring, crankshafts to be reground, etc. I purchased a CERTIFIED USED 2010 HONDA Crosstour EX-L 2wd 3.5V6 with 57,248 miles on it from a local Honda of Escondido, a local Honda Dealer on 03/25/2014 I might ask what year and how many miles on the car as the description could point to a tight valve caused by failure to adjust the valve lash. I really didnt want to argue with the Service Manager over the phone and really appreciated what they did to get my wife in and out as she needs to be back home later today. What a mistake to buy Honda??? ( there are even videos of this on youtube. ) I should not have to worry about being stranded in a practically new vehicle. I am reaching out to see if something has been done about your car. (I felt they know whats going on because I went to autozone for a code read the misfire code was still there). 147 subscribers 2012 honda odyssey 3.5 liter replacing piston rings due too honda recall for misfire issue all other honda vehicle with similar engine has mirefire issue due too oil. Im so stinking mad..they better do something about my fees or Im going to give Honda LOTS of free press.and it wont be good!! Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. I cant tell you whats going on because of lack of detail and the possibility of something being lost in translation. Plus this makes the 3rd time in 4 months Ive had to pay 300 bucks to get my truck fixed. That work would involve cleaning the pistons, and replacing the piston rings and spark plugs. I just spent $1000 in tune up and replacing 6 ignition coil + labor. It took me awhile to figure the problem out, and after new spark plugs and googling I have the vehicle running. Should I file for the reimbursement and extended warranty, or should I sue? American Honda is extending the powertrain warranty to cover repairs related to engine misfire (that triggers DTCs P0301 through P0304) to 8 years with unlimited mileage from the original date of purchase and has settled a class action based on this remedial measure. this is a bullshit settlement. Wind and Engine . My question is, will this fix be a long term one or just a temporary fix until some other piston rings quit? Honda has decided not to honour its own product so I can no longer support them. Im having problems with misfire just replaced spark plugs and reset for 600.00. Ive been told Ill only have to pay $117 for 2 spark plugs that werent covered. I have been mulling over my options for two weeks now. 10. American Honda Motor Co. has agreed to a class action lawsuit settlement over claims it manufactured defective Accord vehicles that burn oil too quickly. They replaced the spark plugs and I did not have to pay out of pocket for anything. They wouldnt even contact Honda Corporate to see if they would do it under good will. Warranty has been extended 8 years on the affected vehicles. clear the misfire codes. I have a 2012 Honda Crosstour and each time I have had it to the shop for a oil change I told the service manager that after I have come to a complete stop then go thru a intersection I have a hesitation was told by the service manager that it was due from slowing down then speeding up??? Dealership wanted me to do the consumption test, but I went to Pennzoil and it stopped burning oil. Enter only one email address at a time. optional: Fill the tank with chevron with techron gas, if its not available in your area use any top tier gas, and add a bottle of techron additive to the tank. My cylnder number 3 was fouled. Hi Scotty, is it safe for me to put my Subaru forester RE: Wannabe Youtuber nitpicks Scotty for clickbait. And a couple of weeks ago my engine came on flashing and traction light came on. . Oil is not cheap these days. Dated 1-20-2015. v. Honda Motor Co. Inc.) alleging that Honda manufactured more than 1.5 million defective vehicles that excessively burned oil. My dealer just claimed it was normal wear at 20,000 miles which seemed odd that the rear went before the front. The dealership set me up with a rental car on 11/26/13 when the excessive oil burn was found. REALLY TIRED OF IT . I was stranded several times with it misfiring so bad that I did not feel comfortable driving it, several complaints to Honda and no answers so I got rid of it Best thing I did! I have a 2008 Honda Accord 4 cylinder using excessive oil and has been pretty much since it was purchased. Knowing what collateral damage WILL eventually occur from this condition is a major concern. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. as of summer 2013 vibration has gotten less (70-90% does vibrate every now and then only when cold, still very small vibration is felt at idle even when warm). Believe in having an engine misfire issue. They said the warranty was 8 years from time of purchase and unlimited miles. However in the past 18 months it has been burning about 2.5 to 3 quarts of oil about every 5,000 miles when I change the oil and filter. I did the same thing as the previous time I had a cylinder misfire problem and signed a paper stating I would pay $115 for the check engine light diagnostic if it is not covered by warranty. They are offering us a 15% discount for our trouble. Honda told me is wasnt their problem! The settlement concerns all U.S. purchasers and lessees of 2008-12 Accord, 2008-13 Odyssey, 2009-13 Pilot, 2010-11 Accord Crosstour and 2012 Crosstour vehicles equipped with six-cylinder engines . CarKiller.com copyright 2020 all rights reserved. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. It sounds like they are doing a ring replacement instead of replacing the short block as others have stated has been done to repair their cars. I have noticed that my van doesn't seem to accelerate well. Have your VIN number in hand as they will need this to check your vehicle for inclusion in the class action. This can set the dtcs p0301 to p0304 and trigger the mil to start. I traded in my 2008 accord V6 for a 2011 accord 4 cycl because of the problem with misfire and oil consumption in the v6. While I did dig up my past maintenance invoices, and I did spend about $1200 fixing/replacing both crush washers and torqued both drain. (.50mm) fits: 99-17 Acura, Honda, Saturn 3.2L-3.5L V6 SOHC Naturally Aspirated Fitment Notes: Set Services Complete Engine, 1.2x1.2x2.8, w/o VCM Engine Designation: J35Z2,J35Y1,J35Z8,J35Z4,J35Z6,J35Z5,J35A6,J35A8,J32A3,J35A9,J35A5,J35A4,J32A1,J35A3,J35A1 They did tell me that all the mechanic work previously completed was superbly performed so that was not the issue. My 2010 Honda Odyssey with only 40,000 miles had flashing engine light. What they ought to be getting is a new class action law suit to show they are still doing business as usual deceiving the public and making a boatload of money in the process! I am at 115, 000 and my check engine light hasnt come on and it seems to be running fine. I dont understand how this settlement only covers 6-cyl engines. Dealership plans to replace 4 spark plugs and 4 rings on the piston. Dealer nor Honda will provide a rental. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. I had the same issue, 2014 accord, Stalled completely on the road. I am very happy about this class action and hope to hear something soon! The 2009-2013 Honda Pilot is the subject of two TSBs for the piston rings which may fail at roughly 72,000 miles or compromise spark plugs. Immediately took it to the dealership and they performed warranty procedure A which was to reset the code, replace spark plugs and perform software update. The dealership wont budge on the $3000 repair costs, ridiculous. Not Replied
We did incurred expenses for towing and twice for car rentals. Its been awhile since I had the problem and at the time I barely understood what it was. I paid nothing and they gave me a car to drive for the 2 days ! Honda obviously is refusing to fix the problem. The parties agree that there are no safety concerns with the vehicles named in the litigation. If you car is stuttering and running like crap they will not fix it unless it generates a code for misfiring. Found tablet in glove box. I have a 2011 Odyssey with around 87,000 miles on it. Nothing more nothing less. I have never had a cat issue before.. My car is only 6 years old ..this 2100$ repair is a result of misfire. The pistons are shaped like mushrooms and move up and down in the cylinders. I bought a 2011 Honda pilot used from a Honda dealer and was never informed of this issue- Is my Pilot still covered under the extended warranty under the settlement until 2019? My primary question is this,, They will replace the short block if you can prove that your car is burning more than a qt of oil in 1000 miles. at 113,000 the first p0303 code comes in, offered the full piston ring redo, or plugs tubes and valves, we did the later do to cost. Have not had any misfire issues or fail codes with it to date. You need to prove that your car is burning more than a qt in 1000 miles. Its been done a second time at 120,000 miles. So 2 days later it happens again. dealership repair to replace rings on 3 cylinders 2300. Now faced with the $4000k piston redo. When I took them to task about it, they backed off their initial stance that it was going to cost me around $6000 to repair. At this point I have nothing to lose so I might as well try it. I love my Odyssey, but almost makes me want to go buy another manufacturers model. This issue needs another class action lawsuit! They tell me that the warranty only covered cylinders 1-4. Sounds like I should trade it in for 2014 ? thank you! Such crap. Not fair at all! Any suggestions? This website is not intended for viewing or usage by European Union citizens. This was not covered under the extended warranty as cylinders 5 and, 6 were not covered. There were no diagnostic codes and they couldnt get the car to repeat what my wife experienced, so nothing done. It will open your eyes. directory! Shanon Carson Before I contact Honda Regional or Corporate I t. I have a 2014 Odyssey and had a fouled spark plug at 17,000 and another at 30,000. I also talked to the Acura Dealer service manager who politely smiled and said it would be $169 for 1 hr assessment and then $369 for a leak down test and then he could recommend an action. I will be calling to find out how I can get my car covered for another 4 years. I dont understand how that is fair if it is a known problem. According to the bulletin this is not covered? But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. After dropping my car off I went home. When I search for problems with hondas when I purchased it nothing appeared. The first time it was misfiring, I took it to a shop and they fixed it. In the mean time, Honda just lost a loyal customer. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. If you get a check, let us know! This warranty covers any defects or malfunctions in your new VCMuzzler II. This is definitely later than the suit deadline. In order for the oil consumption trouble codes to come on your vehicle must be around 3.5 quarts low on oil. I have a 2012 Honda Odyssey EXL 6 cylinder. Top Class I recently brought my car in for the last Oil consumption reading and it was found that the engine burned at least 2 quarts in less than 1200 miles. I purchased a 2009 HONDA Odyssey because of the so-called reliability of your brand. I have a 2010 Pilot. After replacing the plugs (myself the second time) and installing a muzzler device, I've been happily driving the van without issues for over 10k miles, including 2 road trips (one about 500 miles, the other about 1600 miles). When the engine is cold the check engine light would come on along with the VSA light, P0306 #6 cyl. My perspective is that Honda engineering pushed VCM a little to much to get their EPA rating up 1 or 2 miles to a gallon. I have the same issue. 2008 Accord E-XL 100K miles. Is there any other way to recoup losses for the damage. Actions does not process claims and we cannot advise you on the 2 months wouldnt be that unusual, depending on parts and machine shop availability. This really needs to be a recall. UPDATE: A federal judge granted final approval to the Honda engine misfire class action settlement at the Final Fairness Hearing. Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I have the same problem. I have a Honda Accord 2008 and my engine light began to blink and then the VSP light came on. I told them that it had been overfilled and that I had it checked both before and after their checks and know there is a Class Action Suit and that they fudged the numbers to make it not need the fix. A sad loss, even sadder Honda was no help!!! The TSB is the result of A-A-Classction lawsuit. And they new about this. CARS.COM. I went for the final test and before I went I took it to my local place and had them check it first. What a tiny recall window! Its time now that other Honda owners who have the same issues as others here, Get together another class action suit against Honda. There are no current safety recalls for this vehicle. If the motor had lower end damage caused by a severe top end melt down, the entire motor was replaced. Therefore, when the piston rings fail, the car will experience a myriad of problems that may ultimately damage the entire engine. My car is a Honda Odyssey 2012, does Honda would cover these expenses? To receive full compensation for your vehicle repairs, Class Members must submit a valid Claim Form with a copy of an original repair invoice or receipt plus proof of payments for repairs or replacement of parts on a Settlement Class Vehicle by April 10, 2014. I said I do not believe so. maybe the cars been at the dealership for a long time, because theyre swamped with warranty work, Perhaps that other warranty work is repairing engines, just like OPs, Maybe they were already seriously backlogged, when OP showed up. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. I heard from my mechanic that Honda issued an extended warranty for the oil consumption issue. It is ridiculous how much gas I go thru for very little driving! Cal.). I thought that was fishy and really thought it when they told me that I had to have a total of 4 now (they would take an average). Pretty stupid for a vehicle only a few years old. The reason for the recall is a possible defect that could cause an airbag to explode when deployed, increasing the risk of injury or death. My spark plugs were not changed until my Honda Automobile Customer Representative, Yefri Lopez, approved the replacement. That makes sense. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Top Class Actions is a Proud Member of the American Bar Association, Various Trademarks held by their respective owners. I have a 2008 Honda Accord V-6 EXL. My 2012 Odyssey had misfiring and they replace coil, spark plugs and etc in 2015. What can we do? That is supposed to be a solution? I wish they would just pay for it to be fixed. I own a 2008 Honda Accord 4cyl and it is doing the same thing the V6 Accords are doing, burning oil and I just had to have my spark plugs replaced paid for out of my pocket. I purchased it in 2018. Had to replace both. I did ask for the issue to be escalated and I also asked if they had a customer ombudsman that could look into the issue no. Mileage was around 30k miles. That is, until recently when it started miss firing. document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_3" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_4" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Please note: Top Class Actions is not a settlement I had a 2012 Honda pilot. In our commitment to maintain outstanding safety, reliability, performance and environmental standards, Honda occasionally asks our owners to bring their Honda to a dealer to perform recalls and/or product updates. As long as you are changing the plugs, you put a few shots of KREEN into each plug hole and let it sit overnight. So what are the symptoms of the issue here? For all of you, call 1-888-888-3082. As part of the settlement, Honda will extend the powertrain warranty on these models for eight years (from time of purchase or lease) with no mileage limitation, and it will also reimburse. Do to many engine seizures, a recall was issued. Replacement of or failure related to any seal or gasket. ENGINE BUILDING IS NOT A SIMPLE BRAKE JOB!! I brought the car to the dealer twice and the dealer said they cant find anything wrong(and indeed the code disappeared), and charged me for the diagnosis fees. I feel they got a slap on the wrist and we pay dearly for it. 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